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RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen

Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
From: Luiz Emediato (thooft2002@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon May 7 14:52:41 2001


Hi Graeme

I am not able to answer you right now because I have
no system in the moment. Everything is shut down since
I need to replace my Seagate.
As soon as I get it back and installed I will report
the tests to you.

Luiz

>From: "Graeme Hogg" <graeme.hogg@ntlworld.com>
>Reply-To: axp-list@redhat.com
>To: <axp-list@redhat.com>
>Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 04:01:02 +0100
>
>Hi again, forget that, disk formats etc, can make the file system, but it
>thinks its 17 gig, any ideas? i get fsck errors about certain blocks, and
>the block
>numbers are above how many are on the disk.
>
>Graeme Hogg
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: axp-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:axp-list-admin@redhat.com]On
>Behalf Of Graeme Hogg
>Sent: 05 May 2001 16:14
>To: axp-list@redhat.com
>Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
>
>
>Hi Luiz,
>
>Thanks I did see it, my email client is playing up :-). It helped, I got
>the
>disk working, and
>formatted, I haven't tested the capacity yet, gonna try and put 3 gig of
>stuff on it, and see what
>happens. When I do a df it shows 17gig which is a bit strange, but its
>probably not detecting the
>size correctly.
>
>Thanks again for the help
>
>Graeme Hogg
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: axp-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:axp-list-admin@redhat.com]On
>Behalf Of Luiz Emediato
>Sent: 05 May 2001 00:56
>To: axp-list@redhat.com
>Cc: graeme.hogg@ntlworld.com
>Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
>
>
>Hi Graeme,
>
>it seems that you did not see the reply I sent to you
>yesterday for your message below.
>I will re-post it here:
>
>"Hi Graeme,
>
>As far as I know *minlabel* does not evaluate correctly the size of the big
>disks. Forget the column displaying the disk/partition sizes in Megabytes.
>You can calculate the real sizes multiplying the number
>of sectors of each partition by 512 bytes/sector. So you can have
>the exact size partitions. Use sectors instead of MB or GB for the
>disk partitions.
>Anyway, minlabel is just a help to start Linux install. During the
>Linux installation you will be prompted to repartition your disk
>using RedHat Druid or fdisk-BSD.
>For instance, in my case, from SRM console I see 1.18GB for my
>Quantum 18GB disk. From my VAXstation, using SRM console, I see
>only 500MB for my Seagate 9.2GB ST410800N. SRM firmware does not
>interpret big disk sizes correctly as well. But it doesn't mean that the
>disk will not work. Everything is fine in my VAX, and with the
>Alpha Jensen I could mount the 18GB Quantum as a Debian partition.
>
>Luiz"
>
>
> >From: "Graeme Hogg" <graeme.hogg@ntlworld.com>
> >Reply-To: axp-list@redhat.com
> >To: <axp-list@redhat.com>
> >Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
> >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 02:56:04 +0100
> >
> >Hi Luiz,
> >
> >That info helps, made sure everything is correct now, the drive does come
> >up
> >as before
> >but, in minlabel, it shows the correct sectors/unit, etc, but when you
>set
> >a
> >partition to
> >use this, it only allocates 244 meg, instead of 4 gig. Playing about with
> >the different
> >partition sizes doesn't help, it only shows 244 or less. If I just write
> >this to the disk
> >when i try and format i get scsi timeout errors, etc, and the machine
> >basically hangs.
> >I low-level formatted the disk in a PC, with an adaptec 2940, worked
>fine,
> >the disk works
> >fine in a PC, 4 gig, i've used it plenty before.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Graeme Hogg
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: axp-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:axp-list-admin@redhat.com]On
> >Behalf Of Luiz Emediato
> >Sent: 02 May 2001 21:19
> >To: axp-list@redhat.com
> >Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
> >
> >
> >Hi Graeme:
> >
> > >what settings you have on the scsi card, and the drive itself? I mean
>in
> > >id, termination etc.
> > >Mine has scsi timeout errors when trying to partition it. Comes up fine
> >in
> > >minlabel as a 4gig drive, but can't get any sort of
> > >partitions onto it, and i'm stuck with just a 1 gig drive for my os >
>at
> > >the minute.
> >
> >I have the following disk/system configuration on my Jensen:
> >
> >Seagate Barracuda ST15150N --> scsi id 2 --> Windows NT 4.0
> >4.3 GB
> >
> >Seagate Barracuda ST15150N --> scsi id 0 --> Debian 2.2r2
> >4.3 GB
> >
> >Quantum Atlas V QM318300XC --> scsi id 1 --> Debian disk partition
> >LWR 18.3 GB LVD/SE Ultra-W (it will become RedHat)
> >(HDD jumper is set up to Single-Ended mode)
> >
> >Adaptec AHA-1742A 32-bit SCSI Host Adapter for Alpha XP (slot 6)
> > Host Adpter Interface: Enhanced Mode Only
> > Host Adpter BIOS: BIOS Base Address CC000H
> > Host Adpter SCSI ID: Device Id 7
> > SCSI Bus Reset at Power on: Enable SCSI bus reset
> > Interrupt (IRQ) 14 Trigger level
> >
> >Be sure to remove the SCSI terminators (R-packs) from the AHA-1742A board
> >if
> >you intend to have external scsi hard drives or devices.
> >
> >On my SCSI BUS I have:
> >
> >Internal devices:
> >DEC CD-ROM id=4 (terminated <--- one bus end)
> >ZIP drive id=5
> >Quantum HD id=1
> >Seagate HD id=2
> >AHA-1742A host id=7
> >
> >External devices:
> >Exabyte 8200 id=6 (desconnected, for now)
> >Seagate HD id=0 (disk died)
> >Seagate DAT tape id=3 (terminated <--- the other bus end)
> >
> >ECU config: "Enhanced Mode Only"
> >
> > (o) Enhanced Mode Only
> >
> >You might want to low-level reformat your disk to overcome your problem
> >with
> >Seagate Medalist 4 GB. I used a AHA-29160N PCI board from my PC in this
> >case, and ran the Adaptec SCSI BIOS (ctrl-A) probram right before
>booting.
> >Others use "scu" linux program but I never tried it so far.
> >
> >I hope this can help you. If you need more details let me know.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >Luiz
> >
> > >From: "Graeme Hogg" <graeme.hogg@ntlworld.com>
> > >Reply-To: axp-list@redhat.com
> > >To: <axp-list@redhat.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Hard Drive size on Jensen
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:16:00 +0100
> > >
> > >Hi Luiz,
> > >
> > >I'm glad to hear you got that 18gig drive working. I'm having problems
> >with
> > >a
> > >4 gig Seagate Medalist in a Jensen. Posted on here before, but still
> > >couldn't get it to
> > >work after the advise i got. I was wondering what settings you have on
> >the
> > >scsi card, and the
> > >drive itself? I mean in id, termination etc. Mine has scsi timeout
>errors
> > >when trying to partition
> > >it. Comes up fine in minlabel as a 4gig drive, but can't get any sort
>of
> > >partitions onto it,
> > >and i'm stuck with just a 1 gig drive for my os at the minute.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > >Graeme Hogg
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: axp-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:axp-list-admin@redhat.com]On
> > >Behalf Of Luiz Emediato
> > >Sent: 30 April 2001 16:20
> > >To: axp-list@redhat.com
> > >Subject: Re: Hard Drive size on Jensen
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Sebastian, Jakub, Alexey, Will, Rene,
> > >Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >The RH6.2 CD is bootable but aboot version there is 0.5, that is, there
> >is
> > >no menu of commands. Anyway, I tried the following:
> > >I used a Seagate Barracuda 4.3 GB disk to install Debian Linux
> > >(sorry gentlemen for citing Debian here but I want RedHat in one disk
>and
> > >Debian in another one, that is, they are my Linux favorites)) and,
>*GOOD
> > >NEWS* !, after finishing Debian install I could *SUCCESSFULLY*
> > >mount my Quantum Atlas V 18GB as a disk partition, that is, there is
> > >no problem at all with 18GB disks on the Alpha-Jensen AHA-1742A scsi
> > >controller. Notice that the 18GB Quantum Atlas V has 512 bytes/sector.
> > >I previously low-level reformatted the 18GB Quantum disk and copied
> > >aboot0.7
> > >in to it using minlabel and copyboot to prepare the disk for the
> >RedHat6.2
> > >install and, again, aboot reports dummy_bread()!
> > >I would like to try now *SWRITEBOOT* to see if I can overcome this
>aboot
> > >problem, but I need some help. I downloaded the aboot0.7 package from
> > >AlphaLinux to my *RedHatPC*, which has several programs including
> > >swriteboot
> > >to be compile, but I am not sure about the procedure to be used.
> > >Unfortunatelly, my Seagate (Debian) disk just died yesterday, probably
> >due
> > >to the high temperature cause by a malfunctioning fan, and in the
> >meantime
> > >to get a new 4 GB disk I am wondering if I can
> > >compile the package on my RH6.2PC and use swriteboot there to copy
> > >bootlx to the 18GB Quantum for the RedHat 6.2 install (I have an
>Adaptec
> > >ASC-29160N PCI board in the PC). What is the procedure to use
>swriteboot
> >?
> > >I
> > >am looking for a good document. Any suggestions ?
> > >By the way, I would like to try also *Jumpstart* , as mentioned by Will
> > >Woods, but I have no clue about it. Where do I get Jumpstart
> > >from ? Is it a Compaq/Digital product available somewhere ?
> > >
> > >Many thanks,
> > >Luiz
> > >
> > >PS: I will prepare in the near future a document to report all the
> > >procedures and problems I have been experiencing in both RedHat and
> >Debian
> > >Alpha-Jensen install.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Sebastian Moeller <sebastian.moeller@lur.rwth-aachen.de>
> > > >Reply-To: axp-list@redhat.com
> > > >To: axp-list@redhat.com
> > > >Subject: Re: Hard Drive size on Jensen
> > > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:51:26 +0200 (CEST)
> > > >
> > > >Hello Luiz!
> > > >
> > > >I got a little further. This is really something strange ion
> > > >aboot. dummy_bread() is the function which tries to access the
> > > >"initial-kernel". And it fails...
> > > > This problem is way out of my league, so it is probably the best
> > > >way to get the new aboot maintainer involved in this, alas he is
>going
> >on
> > > >vacation (have a nice time...).
> > > > But I seem to remember, that back in aboot 0.5 days I had similar
> > > >error messages with my 9GB drive. I did not really hunt that one, as
>I
> >by
> > > >chance found a working aboot for my drive. Close thereafter aboot 0.7
> > > >apppaered which works just dandy on my drive. In fact the
>jensen17.img
> > > >contains just the first 2880 blocks of this very disk. It is very
> >likely
> > > >that sectorsizes and cylinder sizes are different on your new drive.
> > > > Is it possible for you to boot from cd-rom? If so it would be
> > > >really interesting to see whether it helps to use fdisk to partition
> >the
> > > >disk and swriteboot to add an initial kernel (or a normal kernel
> > > >somewhere reachable in the filesystem). (If this boots your kernel,
> > > >then it is no real aboot issue but more a
> > >
> >oops_we_(I?)_have_to_adjust_the_installation_instructions_one_more_time
> > > >issue)
> > > > Sorry that I can't be of any real help
> > > >
> > > >Ahoi & good luck...
> > > >
> > > > Sebastian Moeller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Luiz Emediato wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Sebastian,
> > > > >
> > > > > The error messages from aboot 0.7 are the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > aboot: loading uncompressed a...
> > > > > aboot: loading compressed a...
> > > > > dummy_bread: read error
> > > >
> > > > This is from dummy.c, part of the fs-stuff in aboot.
> > > >
> > > > > aboot: segment 0, 2663848 bytes at 0xfffffc0000310000
> > > > >
> > > > > unzip: attempted to read past eof
> > > > >
> > > > > Image floppy with jensen17.img was created using the following
> > > > > command:
> > > > > dd if=jensen17.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=2880
> > > > > whose file worked fine on the 4GB hard drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Concerning to the 18GB HD aboot problem, I notice that
> > > > > after the above error messages are displayed, the hard drive
> > > > > LED is ON ad nauseum, that is, it seems that the aboot is seeking
> >for
> > > > > something indefinitely.
> > > > > When I use "q" to quit and try to return to aboot, SRM hangs
> >probably
> > > > > waiting for the hard drive to be available (HD LED is still ON).
> > > > > Then I have to power-cycle the machine.
> > > >
> > > > Does the "halt-switch" on the case work in this situation?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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