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RE: suggestions for udb

Subject: RE: suggestions for udb
From: Rich Payne (rdp@talisman.alphalinux.org)
Date: Mon Dec 6 12:48:18 1999


On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Paul B. Brown wrote:

> Gang,
>
> Why buy Alpha now that Intel P-700's are out? I know that in the past
> Alhpa-based systems were faster than their Intel-based counterparts but
> I'm not so sure this is the case anymore. Since Compaq bought out DEC,
> R&D on the Alpha has slowed to a crawl.

Perhaps you can share with us Compaq's R&D budget over the past few years
so that we can see how this has dropped? Or perhaps some data on the
number of employees working on Alpha? and I suppose you've taken into
account the other companies working on Alpha also (Samsung, API)?

>This is allowing Intel to
> catchup and surpass Alphas based on on CPU speed and price (i.e.
> bang-for-the-buck).

Please, opinions are one thing, but this is just flame bait.

On another note, I'd also reccomend looking for the SX machines, or even
some PC164 machines (just saw some PC164-433 motherboards on ebay). The
performance is much greater than the old axpPCI33.

 --rdp

> Paul
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul B. Brown pbrown@btechnet.com
> President
> Brown Technologies Network, Inc. http://www.btechnet.com/
>
> Systems and Applications Design, Development, Deployment, and Maintenance
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Hoover, Tony wrote:
>
> > If you keep your eyes open, ( e-bay, on-sale, etc. ) you may see 164SX
> > boards for as low as $225 including 533 MHz 21164PC processor. This is a
> > true ATX board ( uses a stock ATX case & power supply ). I paid $350 for my
> > SX board about a year ago. The SX doesn't use the same memory or
> > case/powersupply as the AXPpci33, but the performance is _SIGNIFICANTLY_
> > better. The SX can use industry standard PC-100 DIMMs.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tony Hoover, Network Administrator
> > KSU - Salina, College of Technology
> > mailto:hoover@sal.ksu.edu
> >
> > "Wash Uffitzi drive me to Firenze"
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: mikeh@iuinc.com[SMTP:mikeh@iuinc.com]
> > > Reply To: axp-list@redhat.com
> > > Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 1:09 PM
> > > To: axp-list@redhat.com
> > > Subject: Re: suggestions for udb
> > >
> > > do you know anyone that sells the axp pci33 motherboard?
> > >
> > > or are there any low-cost alpha options?
> > >
> > > On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Chris Kloiber wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jaap Hogenberg wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > There sure is a 233 that works on the AXPpci33 motherboard, I know , I
> > > > > have one.
> > > > > I picked it up in holland, from "www.request.nl" , and they still sell
> > > > > this (CPU and MOBO)
> > > > > I wouldn't know where to get a single CPU though .....
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > > Jaap
> > > > >
> > > > > Humm . . . does anyone know of a URL that I can look at for this?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > -
> > > > > Paul B. Brown pbrown@btechnet.com
> > > > > President
> > > > > Brown Technologies Network, Inc.
> > > http://www.btechnet.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Systems and Applications Design, Development, Deployment, and
> > > Maintenance
> > > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > I believe you will find a DEC Alpha 233 MHz 21066A CPU for $179 (US) at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.starshipcorp.com/starshipcomputers/multia/multia.html
> > > >
> > > > Chris Kloiber
> > > >
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